(;GM[1]FF[4]AP[qGo:0.1]ST[1]
SZ[19]HA[0]KM[6.5]PW[Battousai]PB[Battousai]DT[2003-04-19]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]
C[Battousai [?\]: ok this game is from the Fujitsu cup, round 2 between Lee Sedol (as white)

Battousai [?\]: vs Hane Naoki

]CA[UTF-8]RU[Japanese]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Battousai [?\]: Very Common move white plays to keep black seperated]
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;B[cj]CR[cj]LB[qh:A]C[Battousai [?\]: Not so common move,  usual response is at A (see variation)]
;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Battousai [?\]: white responds making territory while pressuring blacks one stone
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[ch]CR[ch]C[Battousai [?\]: so far pretty normal (see previous far back at A)

Battousai [?\]: and thus begins a fight
]
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;B[bh]CR[bh]C[Battousai [?\]: i dont however like blacks response here

eon [6k?\]: a bit slack?

Battousai [?\]: (again variation for modern

Battousai [?\]: i think this is a bit older in style...
]
;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[eon [6k?\]: well, b is japanese after all :)
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]C[Battousai [?\]: Not taking blacks one stone is move many amatuers would miss.  To take the stone means black can get over your position in sente instead leave the atari and realize black isnt alive yet.  Even taking the stone you black gives himself just one eye.  black needs more]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Battousai [?\]:Only response possible.  a jump of any kind would instead be too slow.  this way black has the option of connecting.
]
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;W[cd]CR[cd]C[kazmo [?\]: why not go a12?
kazmo [?\]: for white?
kazmo [?\]: so dont bother for small when you can go big

Battousai [?\]: yup (see variation for example)

Battousai [?\]: good general rule of thumb to follow

]
;B[dc]CR[dc]C[Battousai [?\]: another odd move by black... can anyone tell me why?

Ang3l [9k\]: b 16 feels natural

eon [6k?\]: he lets w cut his groups this way

Battousai [?\]: indeed, hes creating more groups that hes going to have to worry about

Battousai [?\]: c14 isnt alive just yet
]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Battousai [?\]: As expected white breaks any hope of blacks connection]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[de]CR[de]C[Battousai [?\]:ugly shape but strong move, theres no ignoring the fact black has 2 groups to look after .  white only has the one]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[Battousai [?\]: strong move, black fixes shape however there were 2 groups to look after not one.  white can now attack black]
;W[eg]CR[eg]C[Battousai [?\]: now black is in trouble

]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[
]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[fj]CR[fj]C[MrOoijer [-\]: what is whites move now?

Battousai [?\]: black did manage to escape and though it might appear that the attack is turned on white since black has yet another weak group to exploit

Battousai [?\]: this is deceptive, for now more than f16 is needed to ensure the safety blacks group due to whites rather large wall
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]C[Battousai [?\]: As expected]
;B[gg]CR[gg]C[Battousai [?\]: white attacks black, black tries to respond by attacking white
]
;W[gf]CR[gf]C[MrOoijer [-\]: g14?
Battousai [?\]: yup
MrOoijer [-\]: yes
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[hg]CR[hg]C[
]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[bb]CR[bb]C[Battousai [?\]: black goes for life obviously
]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[gi]CR[gi]C[Battousai [?\]: white tries to set up a condition where he can play G17safely
Battousai [?\]: that would be really tough on black, but to do that  the atari at h15 must have more implications beyond the single stone
]
;B[hh]CR[hh]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[he]CR[he]C[Battousai [?\]: and hes doing that by giving black too much to worry about at once
]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[gk]CR[gk]
;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Battousai [?\]: i thought this was a rather nice exchange... white doesnte have to worry about life for his group plus

Battousai [?\]: black is now capturing a dead shape... if white manage to attach to O17 later on he can resume an attack

Battousai [?\]: but for now theres other things to worry about
]
;B[il]CR[il]C[Battousai [?\]: like white now having weak groups for black to attack
]
;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[
]
;W[jl]CR[jl]C[Battousai [?\]: only way to settle his group is to attack black, not totally unthinkable since blacks  e10 group isnt yet totally alive either

Battousai [?\]: very complicated

Battousai [?\]: i guess hes showing that hes not afraid of korea

]
;B[jm]CR[jm]
;W[im]CR[im]C[Battousai [?\]: white continues the  fight
]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[jk]CR[jk]C[Battousai [?\]: must]
;B[km]CR[km]
;W[in]CR[in]
;B[mi]CR[mi]C[Battousai [?\]: good follow up to pressure white however now that black has more stones seperated its easeier to deflect
]
;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[nj]CR[nj]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[ni]CR[ni]C[Battousai [?\]: its not severe enough
Battousai [?\]: so white can deflect it too easily
]
;W[mm]CR[mm]C[Battousai [?\]: see? they key stones pressuring white are now under attack black needs to go back and defend

]
;B[ko]CR[ko]
;W[mo]CR[mo]C[Battousai [?\]: white persues.  for many reasons.  for one pressure is still on black.  for another as i mentioned earlier e10 is still not totally alive.  if black is forced to live by attacking  j6.. strengthening j6 it would then not be outside the realm of possibility for black to die in either group]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[kn]CR[kn]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[ip]CR[ip]C[kazmo [?\]: great still no lach
]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Battousai [?\]: why is this dangerous for black

SilverKCGo [8k\]: what so dangerous there battousai?

Battousai [?\]: kinda running low on eyes eh?

eon [6k?\]: yeah, hard to see how it can live

Battousai [?\]: granted black has managed to keep whits N9 unsettled but...

Battousai [?\]: kinda worthless if he can just turn around and kill
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]C[Battousai [?\]:Extremely violent! white goes straight to blacks throat and demands an answer to how black is going to live]
;B[fk]CR[fk]
;W[ah]CR[ah]C[Battousai [?\]: not a slow move,  white takes away blacks chance at another easy eye]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[bq]CR[bq]C[Battousai [?\]: as is black cant cut that
Battousai [?\]: it will just be captured ...
]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Battousai [?\]: now he can
]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[do]CR[do]C[Battousai [?\]: lookin ugly for white o.O
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[kazmo [?\]: i know ill play diane, if lach does not show
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Ang3l [9k\]: wow :)
]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Battousai [?\]: for those who cant see (see var) h4 is out of the question

ShatteR [?\]: like me
]
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;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[dr]CR[dr]C[SilverKCGo [8k\]: hm...
SilverKCGo [8k\]: black is stubborn
Battousai [?\]: very
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[ap]CR[ap]
;B[ar]CR[ar]C[Battousai [?\]: ugly exchange comming up might want ot close your eyes o.O
]
;W[ao]CR[ao]
;B[bn]CR[bn]C[ringoshin [15k\]: x.x
]
;W[an]CR[an]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[am]CR[am]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[al]CR[al]C[MrOoijer [-\]: now its getting interesting
]
;B[bk]CR[bk]
;W[ak]CR[ak]C[Battousai [?\]: yuck lol

toestix [?\]: that was ugly

Battousai [?\]: running along the first line...

SilverKCGo [8k\]: huh

eon [6k?\]: well, can't say it was bad for w :)

Battousai [?\]: right he lives

SilverKCGo [8k\]: hm..
SilverKCGo [8k\]: black lives
woll [7k\]: but D10 now 

Battousai [?\]: black can live too now hehe his group can live if he plays d10

Battousai [?\]: why doesnt he?

eon [6k?\]: w will kill his bottom group

Battousai [?\]: yup
Battousai [?\]: everything on the bottom will die

ShatteR [?\]: ooOOOooOOOoOOOOo
SilverKCGo [8k\]: why do these dans need to save everything-_-

Battousai [?\]: black simply has way too much to look after
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[gr]CR[gr]C[Battousai [?\]: Only hope to kill white]
;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[fs]CR[fs]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Battousai [?\]: White prepares for the final stroke taking away all of blacks options]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[ds]CR[ds]
;B[hs]CR[hs]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[js]SQ[bf][bk][bl][bm][bn][bo][cf][cg][cj][co][cp][dg][dh][dl][dn][do][eh][ej][el][en][fj][fk][fl][gk][gm][hm][il]CR[dr][ep][eq][er][fq][fs][gp][gq][gr][hs][js]TR[iq][jm][jq][ko][kp][kq][kr]C[Battousai [?\]: which is why here... black resigns
ShatteR [?\]: yay

Battousai [?\]: he cant save his groups


noname15 [15k\]: he has 2 corners or??
Ink [?\]: don't ask me ^^;;
Battousai [?\]: no
Battousai [?\]: itsn ot a matter of how many corners he has
Battousai [?\]: its a matter of points
Battousai [?\]: he can save one or the other
Battousai [?\]: any by doing so
Battousai [?\]: "o" will ddie
noname15 [15k\]: if he connects with d10 then white cuts the l group or?
]
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;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Battousai [?\]: save this...
Battousai [?\]: and...
]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Battousai [?\]: simply kills blacks grou
Battousai [?\]: making e2 no longer seki
Battousai [?\]: same thing here
Battousai [?\]: if he saves L4's group
Battousai [?\]: seki is moot since he just lost D5s group
Battousai [?\]: see now?
noname15 [15k\]: jup thanks
Battousai [?\]: kewl
]
)
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;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Battousai [?\]: live...
Battousai [?\]: ok he connects with D10
Battousai [?\]: then yes his group there will live
Battousai [?\]: but
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Ang3l [9k\]: wow
Battousai [?\]: and he does the same thing
Battousai [?\]: kills the other group
Battousai [?\]: no longer seki

Battousai [?\]: white just turns around and kills his other group
Ink [?\]: :)
Battousai [?\]: L2 cant live
Battousai [?\]: and cant escape
toestix [?\]: panda is all lily fresh now
noname15 [15k\]: whats about capture race??
Battousai [?\]: which means the seki that black made with F2 is just dead
Battousai [?\]: no
Battousai [?\]: if black tries to catpure he wil be captured
Battousai [?\]: your saying black capture J2 group?
noname15 [15k\]: jup but white captures bevor the f3 group right?
Battousai [?\]: yes as is its seki
Battousai [?\]: either one tries to capture the other gets captured
Battousai [?\]: but
Battousai [?\]: that point is moot if L4's group doesnt live
Battousai [?\]: which it does after white plays N2
]
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)
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;B[hp]CR[hp]C[Battousai [?\]: this isnt ko
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[ringoshin [15k\]: i didnt see this
Battousai [?\]: because white can just turn around and live anyway by capturing these 3 stones
]
)
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;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Battousai [?\]: this is also unaccpetable
Ang3l [9k\]: g 3 ?
Ang3l [9k\]: or j  2 first ?
Battousai [?\]: yup too many ways to live still
]
)
)
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;W[ah]CR[ah]C[SilverKCGo [8k\]: gote
Battousai [?\]: taking the one stone is small

]
;B[dc]CR[dc]C[Battousai [?\]: it allows black to further damage d16

kazmo [?\]: what diffrence does that make

Battousai [?\]: well

SilverKCGo [8k\]: its gote!

Battousai [?\]: by taking the one stone you get a few pts... black on the other hand fixes his position...

Battousai [?\]: and makes +10

kazmo [?\]: ah ok]
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;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fc]CR[fc]C[
]
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)
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;B[qh];W[qn];B[ql];W[on];B[nq]
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;W[rp];B[pk];W[qq];B[kq]C[Battousai [?\]: modern outcome, seperating whites stones works well with blacks enclosure in the upper right,  it is true that r10 isnt dead however if white feels the need to revive it the timing must be perfect or risk giving control of the game to black]
)
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;W[pk];B[qo];W[rn]C[Battousai [?\]: Passive outcome giving sente to black however  very solid.  ]
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