(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[25/600 Canadian]
PW[RikiTiki]PB[Graou]WR[7k]BR[10k]DT[2005-01-09]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AB[pd][dp]RE[B+18.50]
;W[pp]CR[pp]WL[2678.3]
;B[dd]CR[dd]BL[2694]
;W[fc]CR[fc]WL[2659.2]
;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[2679.8]
;W[jd]CR[jd]WL[2652]
;B[qn]CR[qn]BL[2667.3]
;W[ql]CR[ql]WL[2640.5]
;B[qq]CR[qq]BL[2661.8]
;W[qp]CR[qp]WL[2636.5]
;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[2658.7]
;W[op]CR[op]WL[2635.9]
;B[rp]CR[rp]BL[2648.6]
;W[ro]CR[ro]WL[2631.7]
;B[rq]CR[rq]BL[2646.6]
;W[qo]CR[qo]WL[2630.6]
;B[nq]CR[nq]BL[2645.4]
;W[mo]CR[mo]WL[2627.7]C[Up til now, all was lovely. But this? White builds a massive wall facing a short extension. Why?]
;B[qg]CR[qg]BL[2637.9]C[Wouldn't this have been better on the other side, threatening to attack White's weak position on the top. This move as played seems to approach White's stronger position.]
;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[2605]C[White is happy.]
;B[pc]CR[pc]BL[2625.1]
;W[ne]CR[ne]WL[2600.7]C[It seems a bit early to defend. The left side seems bigger.]
;B[dj]CR[dj]BL[2613.5]C[yes.]
;W[db]CR[db]WL[2591.7]C[What's the rush over here? This is not something black has to react to.]
;B[cc]CR[cc]BL[2603.3]LB[jp:A]C[No urgency. Why not play A and build a bigger framework?]
;W[fe]CR[fe]WL[2585.4]
;B[gq]CR[gq]BL[2590.9]C[Black's got a big framework. White will need to invade.]
(;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[2582.9]
;B[co]CR[co]BL[2585.2]LB[cp:A]C[Contact is not the best choice. Better to merely play A and leave White weaker.]
;W[dn]CR[dn]WL[2580.5]
;B[fn]CR[fn]BL[2579.1]LB[bo:A]C[Maybe. Black's corner is not worth much yet and this cap builds a wall that faces White strong stones on the right, so it is not great.  A is better. If White runs to circle, Black can profitably harrass by extending along the bottom.]
;W[dl]CR[dl]WL[2572]
;B[ck]CR[ck]BL[2567.8]
;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[2562.1]
;B[ej]CR[ej]BL[2562.1]
;W[fk]CR[fk]WL[2560.4]
;B[jf]CR[jf]BL[2470.9]LB[fg:A]C[Maybe.  But does black really need a new weak group over here. Wouldn't  a move like A, a moyo pivot point, be better and safer?]
;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[2552.9]LB[jh:A]C[Contacting strong stones is not particularly useful.  I might consider A, attacking black and trying to help my weak left group indirectly.]
;B[lc]CR[lc]BL[2443]
(;W[ob]CR[ob]WL[2544.1]C[White doesn't have time for this. It doesn't threaten black much.]
;B[md]CR[md]BL[2432.3]
(;W[nd]CR[nd]WL[2538.8]
;B[ke]CR[ke]BL[2412.2]LB[jc:A]TR[ob][nc][nd][ne]C[Ugly are the shapes this move goes toward.  I would think A would be better. Black should try to reinforce his group so that he can attack White's triangle stones later.]
;W[kd]CR[kd]WL[2526.3]C[Just the move I had in mind to make Black's shape bad.]
;B[me]CR[me]BL[2402.5]C[Not helping Black.]
;W[ld]CR[ld]WL[2520.9]LB[mf:A]C[Premature. White should just play A first.]
;B[mc]CR[mc]BL[2395.3]
;W[le]CR[le]WL[2519]C[Now White is harming his own position. Too bad.]
;B[mf]CR[mf]BL[2393.7]C[Black is in love. This is a White disaster. In amateur games, the one who makes the last big mistake loses. White has just made a game losing mistake. All Black has to do now is not make a compensating one.]
;W[lf]CR[lf]WL[2517.3]C[White must think this is a good trade, but it sucks.]
;B[nf]CR[nf]BL[2388.4]LB[ng:A]C[No. Contacting strong stones is not good. Better A.]
;W[pe]CR[pe]WL[2514]C[one of many failing moves and there arent any working ones.]
;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[2384.9]
;W[of]CR[of]WL[2501.3]
;B[pf]CR[pf]BL[2379.6]
;W[og]CR[og]WL[2463.2]
;B[oe]CR[oe]BL[2359.2]C[This exchange did not work out for White.]
;W[nh]CR[nh]WL[2433.9]LB[lh:A]TR[of][og]C[There is no joy for White this way.  White gets committed to saving useless triangled stones while Black will be safe.
Maybe White could play A and pray for a moyo again.]
;B[mh]CR[mh]BL[2342.7]C[good]
;W[lh]CR[lh]WL[2367.3]
;B[mi]CR[mi]BL[2237]
;W[oi]CR[oi]WL[2336.9]
;B[lg]CR[lg]BL[2218.6]LB[ph:A]C[Better to play A first. Helps Black and hinders White.]
;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[2327.9]
;B[mg]CR[mg]BL[2216.5]
;W[ki]CR[ki]WL[2298.8]
;B[mk]CR[mk]BL[2114.7]C[Strictly speaking this isn't needed. But Black is winning so this is simple and safe.]
;W[dh]CR[dh]WL[2147.4]TR[of][og][nh][oi]C[Too bad this doesn't really isolate black and too bad White's triangle stones are within a black sector line. White is in deep trouble in this game.]
(;B[dg]CR[dg]BL[2016.4]LB[ch:A]C[Since Black must play at A eventually, best to do it NOW without strengthening White.]
;W[eh]CR[eh]WL[2127.9]
;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[2013.7]
;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[2085.8]C[Black had better know what he is doing here.]
;B[di]CR[di]BL[1971.6]
;W[bh]CR[bh]WL[2059.8]
;B[cg]CR[cg]BL[1968.1]
;W[bj]CR[bj]WL[2057.6]
;B[bk]CR[bk]BL[1945.2]
;W[bl]CR[bl]WL[2025.2]
;B[al]CR[al]BL[1935.2]LB[cj:A]C[A would be more direct and safer.]
(;W[bm]CR[bm]WL[1929.5]
;B[eg]CR[eg]BL[1896.4]LB[ei:A]C[Asking for trouble. Does Black know he wins the race if White plays A? Looks like he would lose to me.]
;W[fh]CR[fh]WL[1920.9]C[Oops. Missed the chance.]
;B[cj]CR[cj]BL[1873.5]C[YES.]
;W[bi]CR[bi]WL[1915.6]C[Now its a simple 4:4 count. ]
;B[bg]CR[bg]BL[1856.8]
;W[fp]CR[fp]WL[1798.8]LB[kb:B][qi:A]C[This is not going to do much to black, but white certainly can't afford to be defensive. Still, A has safety and profit in mind. But B is profit and sente, threatening to save his stones.]
;B[eq]CR[eq]BL[1811]
;W[eo]CR[eo]WL[1796.1]
;B[hp]CR[hp]BL[1804.1]
;W[go]CR[go]WL[1779.6]
;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[1785.9]C[Black gets a good deal out of this.]
;W[ho]CR[ho]WL[1774.9]C[Not worth much.]
;B[ip]CR[ip]BL[1782.8]
;W[mq]CR[mq]WL[1771]
;B[oq]CR[oq]BL[1754.3]LB[nr:A]C[Better to drop back to A usually.]
;W[np]CR[np]WL[1761.3]
;B[cb]CR[cb]BL[1727.8]
;W[mr]CR[mr]WL[1757.2]C[See what black left for White? dropping down was definitely a better black choice.]
;B[lp]CR[lp]BL[1716.6]
;W[mp]CR[mp]WL[1754.1]
;B[nr]CR[nr]BL[1714.5]
;W[io]CR[io]WL[1718.2]LB[fg:B][kk:A]C[Wrong side. Better to play A. but B is a nagging weakness that is worth a lot, too.]
;B[li]CR[li]BL[1673.5]
;W[kh]CR[kh]WL[1693]
;B[gf]CR[gf]BL[1669.2]
;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[1690.6]C[White plans to give up 3 stones, I hope.]
;B[fg]CR[fg]BL[1661.3]
;W[gg]CR[gg]WL[1687.6]
;B[gh]CR[gh]BL[1659.9]
;W[hg]CR[hg]WL[1674.1]
;B[fi]CR[fi]BL[1657.8]
;W[gi]CR[gi]WL[1671.8]C[White is not making a good choice.]
;B[hh]CR[hh]BL[1652.8]
;W[hi]CR[hi]WL[1660.3]
;B[ih]CR[ih]BL[1649.3]
;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[1651.5]
;B[kk]CR[kk]BL[1629.1]
;W[ii]CR[ii]WL[1647.1]
;B[ei]CR[ei]BL[1616.6]
;W[jg]CR[jg]WL[1587.6]
;B[qj]CR[qj]BL[1554.3]C[Seems like a good choice for Black. It will be hard for WHite to win.]
;W[qi]CR[qi]WL[1583]
;B[ri]CR[ri]BL[1550]
;W[pj]CR[pj]WL[1578.2]
;B[qh]CR[qh]BL[1543.9]
;W[qk]CR[qk]WL[1566.5]
;B[rj]CR[rj]BL[1538.9]C[Why not capture?]
;W[nl]CR[nl]WL[1546.7]
;B[sm]CR[sm]BL[1513.2]
;W[rm]CR[rm]WL[1505.3]
;B[sl]CR[sl]BL[1451.9]
;W[cq]CR[cq]WL[1472.1]
;B[dq]CR[dq]BL[1378]
;W[bo]CR[bo]WL[1459.8]
;B[cr]CR[cr]BL[1355.6]
;W[bq]CR[bq]WL[1453.3]
;B[br]CR[br]BL[1346.6]
;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1438]
;B[kr]CR[kr]BL[1285.4]
;W[fq]CR[fq]WL[1433.1]
;B[fr]CR[fr]BL[1282.7]
;W[gr]CR[gr]WL[1421.3]
;B[er]CR[er]BL[1249.1]
;W[jp]CR[jp]WL[1392.4]
;B[kp]CR[kp]BL[1084.7]
;W[jq]CR[jq]WL[1382.4]
;B[kn]CR[kn]BL[1069.9]
;W[jo]CR[jo]WL[1347.9]
;B[ln]CR[ln]BL[1065.2]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[1315.5]
;B[ml]CR[ml]BL[1046.9]
;W[lj]CR[lj]WL[1309.1]
;B[mj]CR[mj]BL[1044.8]
;W[mm]CR[mm]WL[1290.9]
;B[kl]CR[kl]BL[1035.2]
;W[il]CR[il]WL[1269.7]
;B[rn]CR[rn]BL[1014.9]
;W[pn]CR[pn]WL[1266.5]
;B[qm]CR[qm]BL[991.2]
;W[pm]CR[pm]WL[1264.3]
;B[rl]CR[rl]BL[989.7]
;W[rk]CR[rk]WL[1255.9]
;B[jb]CR[jb]BL[960.4]
;W[kb]CR[kb]WL[1247.4]
;B[so]CR[so]BL[907.9]
;W[kc]CR[kc]WL[1241.3]
;B[mb]CR[mb]BL[901.5]
;W[qb]CR[qb]WL[1204.7]
;B[pb]CR[pb]BL[895.2]
;W[rd]CR[rd]WL[1200.4]
;B[re]CR[re]BL[886]
;W[qc]CR[qc]WL[1194.3]
;B[qd]CR[qd]BL[851.9]
;W[ar]CR[ar]WL[1134.8]
;B[ds]CR[ds]BL[845.4]
;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[1127]
;B[mn]CR[mn]BL[836.7]
;W[nn]CR[nn]WL[1124.5]
;B[lm]CR[lm]BL[814.2]
;W[nm]CR[nm]WL[1121.9]
;B[ik]CR[ik]BL[809.6]
;W[hk]CR[hk]WL[1101.2]
;B[im]CR[im]BL[791.6]
;W[hm]CR[hm]WL[1095.9]
;B[jl]CR[jl]BL[789.6]
;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[1095]
;B[jn]CR[jn]BL[739]
;W[ca]CR[ca]WL[1088.1]
;B[ba]CR[ba]BL[734.5]
;W[da]CR[da]WL[1086]
;B[bb]CR[bb]BL[733.8]
;W[de]CR[de]WL[1062.3]
;B[ce]CR[ce]BL[727.3]
;W[ed]CR[ed]WL[1055.7]
;B[lk]CR[lk]BL[724.8]
;W[ij]CR[ij]WL[1043.7]
;B[ok]CR[ok]BL[713.2]
;W[nk]CR[nk]WL[1038.4]
;B[oj]CR[oj]BL[708.3]
;W[nj]CR[nj]WL[1033.8]
;B[pi]CR[pi]BL[695.2]
;W[ol]CR[ol]WL[1028.6]
;B[pk]CR[pk]BL[689.6]
;W[pl]CR[pl]WL[1027.9]
;B[pj]CR[pj]BL[688.2]
;W[ni]CR[ni]WL[1027.3]
;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[643]
;W[cp]CR[cp]WL[1021.3]
;B[do]CR[do]BL[638.4]
;W[in]CR[in]WL[971.4]
;B[jm]CR[jm]BL[635.5]
;W[jr]CR[jr]WL[967]
;B[lb]CR[lb]BL[595.8]
;W[la]CR[la]WL[959.4]
;B[cl]CR[cl]BL[586]
;W[cm]CR[cm]WL[956.2]
;B[jj]CR[jj]BL[577.9]
;W[am]CR[am]WL[931.4]
;B[ak]CR[ak]BL[574.9]
;W[ji]CR[ji]WL[920.4]
;B[dc]CR[dc]BL[564.4]
;W[ma]CR[ma]WL[911.3]
;B[na]CR[na]BL[560.7]
;W[ka]CR[ka]WL[900.5]
;B[nb]CR[nb]BL[559.7]
;W[sk]CR[sk]WL[882.9]
;B[ec]CR[ec]BL[550.1]
;W[fb]CR[fb]WL[878.5]
;B[dk]CR[dk]BL[491.6]
;W[en]CR[en]WL[836.3]
;B[ef]CR[ef]BL[476.6]
;W[ee]CR[ee]WL[831.4]
;B[js]CR[js]BL[466]
;W[is]CR[is]WL[822.6]
;B[ks]CR[ks]BL[464.7]
;W[gs]CR[gs]WL[815.8]
;B[fs]CR[fs]BL[458.9]
;W[sj]CR[sj]WL[798]
;B[ms]CR[ms]BL[440.5]
;W[si]CR[si]WL[789]
;B[sh]CR[sh]BL[437.8]
;W[lr]CR[lr]WL[754.8]
;B[ls]CR[ls]BL[429.2]
;W[ph]CR[ph]WL[715.5]
;B[bs]CR[bs]BL[403.4]
;W[aq]CR[aq]WL[681.5]
;B[pg]CR[pg]BL[389.6]
;W[oh]CR[oh]WL[679.2]
;B[fh]CR[fh]BL[359.8]
;W[sb]CR[sb]WL[667.5]
;B[sd]CR[sd]BL[312.9]
;W[]WL[636.7]
;B[]BL[312.9]TW[ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][gb][hb][ib][jb][gc][hc][ic][jc][fd][gd][hd][id][ge][he][ie][je][ke][gf][hf][if][jf][kf][gj][hj][gk][el][fl][gl][dm][em][fm][gm][om][an][bn][fn][gn][hn][on][ao][fo][no][oo][po][ap][bp][gp][hp][ip][gq][hq][iq][ir][hs]TB[aa][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][ob][qb][rb][sb][ac][bc][nc][oc][qc][rc][sc][ad][bd][cd][nd][od][rd][ae][be][ne][pe][se][af][bf][qf][rf][sf][ag][rg][sg][ah][bh][dh][eh][rh][ai][bi][ci][qi][aj][bj][ll][km][rm][sn][sp][sq][dr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][cs][es][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss])
(;W[cl]CR[cl]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: i REALLY wanted to do this
RikiTiki [7k?\]: but i was afraid
]
(;B[bm]CR[bm])
(;B[an]CR[an]
(;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[ao]CR[ao]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
(;B[ap]CR[ap])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: of somethink like this
Graou [10k\]: W B5 after B A6 ?
]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[ak]CR[ak]
;W[am]CR[am]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[aj]CR[aj]
;B[am]CR[am]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[ap]CR[ap]))
(;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[ao]CR[ao]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[am]CR[am]C[mitdahand [-\]: graou and riki, dont forget to sign into round2 if u want to play and get paired; thx.
]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[ak]CR[ak]
;W[aj]CR[aj]C[Graou [10k\]: done
RikiTiki [7k?\]: ah
RikiTiki [7k?\]: thanks mit!!!
RikiTiki [7k?\]: i've reported your win grau
mitdahand [-\]: im the den muther.
RikiTiki [7k?\]: LOL
RikiTiki [7k?\]: i need to go cry and get ready for the game
RikiTiki [7k?\]: thanks for the game graou!!!
Graou [10k\]: thanks too:
]))))
(;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
(;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[ff]CR[ff]C[Black could be happy with this.])
(;W[df]CR[df]C[White is pushing it trying to do this. ]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Wouldnt this be exciting? But Black doesn't need to kill. Just live in the area. White will have to spend a lot of moves to live and Black has a lot of threats. ...])))
(;W[me]CR[me]C[Graou [10k\]: i like this way better
RikiTiki [7k?\]: i should have used the SAIRONNARA PLAY
RikiTiki [7k?\]: saironara tesuji
RikiTiki [7k?\]: or however you spell it
RikiTiki [7k?\]: good by o17
Graou [10k\]: coul work with your thickness at the bottom and your left group since it turned on my stones
RikiTiki [7k?\]: but instead....
]))
(;W[ld]CR[ld])
(;W[le]CR[le]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ng]CR[ng]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: i maybe should have gone for center sooner
])
(;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[mc]CR[mc]))
(;W[bp]CR[bp]C[Graou [10k\]: :-)
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: then white c6 i think
Graou [10k\]: you have control
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
(;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[fm]CR[fm]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: something like this
RikiTiki [7k?\]:  or
])
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[en]CR[en]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: and w is out
RikiTiki [7k?\]: or
]))
(;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
(;W[dm]CR[dm])
(;W[cm]CR[cm]C[RikiTiki [7k?\]: hmmm
RikiTiki [7k?\]: anyway lostsa ways for white to do something
RikiTiki [7k?\]: and since the side was bigger (i thought that ne bottom
RikiTiki [7k?\]: b4 might have been better than c6
]))))