(;
GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[mh]
PW[bwilcox]
DT[2004-02-01]
PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]
KM[0.5]
TM[1800]
RU[Japanese]
BR[2k]
WR[4d]
OT[25/600 Canadian]
C[mh [2k\]: Hi.  Thank you for the teaching game
bwilcox [4d\]: you are welcome.
bwilcox [4d\]: ready?
mh [2k\]: Shall we start?
bwilcox [4d\]: yes.]
CA[UTF-8];B[pd]CR[pd]
BL[1750.577];W[dc]CR[dc]
WL[1796.604];B[qp]CR[qp]
BL[1745.533];W[op]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Right here is maybe an issue. 
bwilcox [4d\]: You cannot do much with my attack here while using \
your handicap stone.
bwilcox [4d\]: If the corner were flipped (you at Q3), then you \
could squeeze and extend from handicap.
bwilcox [4d\]: The way you have built this, you need both a corner \
enclosure and an extension to q10 area to unite these forces.
bwilcox [4d\]: Not fatal, just not coordinated.
mh [2k\]: How about the empty corner?
mh [2k\]: How do you think about it?
bwilcox [4d\]: If I get there first, I have 3 united fronts.
bwilcox [4d\]: So maybe you want to just go there.
mh [2k\]: I needed sente 
bwilcox [4d\]: Yes, and I give it to you.]
CR[op]
WL[1793.648];B[pn]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: I favor this, it keeps to the outside and you get \
sente.]
CR[pn]
BL[1732.465];W[qq]CR[qq]
WL[1791.926];B[rq]CR[rq]
BL[1730.882];W[pq]CR[pq]
WL[1791.071]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
BL[1729.235];W[lq]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: I chose a conservative extension. Means I am strong \
and cannot be threatened.]
CR[lq]
WL[1790.250];B[cp]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: ok.]
CR[cp]
BL[1723.956];W[ep]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: I came high, planning to take sente if you react.
mh [2k\]: E3 was not good
bwilcox [4d\]: Since I am strong on the bottom, I don't fear a \
fight there.
mh [2k\]: D4 was so obvious
bwilcox [4d\]: e3 was BAD
mh [2k\]: agree
bwilcox [4d\]: Keeping out would be fine.
mh [2k\]: Yes
bwilcox [4d\]: triangle would still be ok. I'd end up with redundant \
positions if I played joseki.]
TR[dn]
CR[ep]
WL[1786.911]
(;B[eq]
C[mh [2k\]: How about E5?
bwilcox [4d\]: You cannot expect me to play f3 here.
mh [2k\]: no way
mh [2k\]: M3 is there]
CR[eq]
BL[1711.603];W[dp]CR[dp]
WL[1783.214];B[dq]CR[dq]
BL[1704.653];W[co]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So now the question is what joseki you should want.
bwilcox [4d\]: If you got the outside, you could be happy.]
CR[co]
WL[1782.552]
(;B[cq]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: You have chosen to give me the outside. I am happy.]
CR[cq]
BL[1641.522];W[fp]CR[fp]
WL[1780.147];B[gq]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This move, good, but makes no threat to my bottom \
group, so it is single purpose.
bwilcox [4d\]: Is consequence of your joseki choice.
bwilcox [4d\]: Here I decide to just be strong and wait.]
CR[gq]
BL[1640.888];W[dn]CR[dn]
WL[1773.098]
(;B[cf]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: I understand this, trying to reduce my wall, good \
idea.
bwilcox [4d\]: But I will still squeeze strongly.
bwilcox [4d\]: You "could" just wedge.]
CR[cf]
BL[1609.261];W[ch]
C[mh [2k\]: It's clear after the game..
bwilcox [4d\]: So my plan here is to force you into corner while \
I go outside again.]
CR[ch]
WL[1769.288];B[cc]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: natural, but I have no plans to keep my stone strong \
here.]
CR[cc]
BL[1584.741];W[cb]
C[mh [2k\]: Honestly I did ot expect C18.]
CR[cb]
WL[1767.218];B[cd]CR[cd]
BL[1580.653];W[eh]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This is the beginning of my moyo work.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: Now you will have trouble invading. I pay corner \
price BUT so what?
mh [2k\]: E14 is better than B18
bwilcox [4d\]: Since you want to run out to E14...]
CR[eh]
WL[1766.243]
(;B[bb]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: yes, you are now alive.]
CR[bb]
BL[1575.036];W[gc]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So if you are alive, who cares about playing at \
triangle
bwilcox [4d\]: Better to get the outside.
mh [2k\]: right
bwilcox [4d\]: Then I get "forced" to connect, you play corner \
and live.
bwilcox [4d\]: Leaves me weak.]
TR[jc][db]
CR[gc]
WL[1764.934]
(;B[db]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: I thank you. Gives me time to play important move \
toward your handicap stone.]
CR[db]
BL[1573.130];W[eb]CR[eb]
WL[1763.578];B[ca]CR[ca]
BL[1572.406];W[nd]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So each corner is currently working independently.
bwilcox [4d\]: But I have 2 moyos.
bwilcox [4d\]: One of them has weak stones to bound it.
bwilcox [4d\]: Your goal is to use your stones in a coordinated \
manner.
bwilcox [4d\]: Most stones you have are piled into bottom (no \
way to use) and upper left.
bwilcox [4d\]: How to use your strength in upper left.
mh [2k\]: separate three stones from the moyo?
bwilcox [4d\]: YES. Invade creates attack on both my groups.]

PL[B]CR[nd]
WL[1762.771]
(;B[nc]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This, however is again awful.
bwilcox [4d\]: This move will make my weak group stronger and \
you are still not on the outside yet, where the action will be \
due to my moyo.
mh [2k\]: Well at this time I decided to go amashi, which did \
not work
bwilcox [4d\]: Since I am weak, you should not contact me and \
make me strong.
bwilcox [4d\]: Had I done your bidding.]

PL[B]CR[nc]
BL[1568.588]
(;W[mc]CR[mc]
WL[1760.639];B[oc]CR[oc]
BL[1567.808];W[md]CR[md]
WL[1758.853];B[pf]CR[pf]
BL[1566.180]
(;W[ho]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So I chose to play here. It has a threat to unite \
my groups on the bottom in sente.
bwilcox [4d\]: If you want to use your slow stones, this is probably \
your last chance.
mh [2k\]: yes]

PL[B]CR[ho]
WL[1755.586]
(;B[pj]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Here you say let's compete on our sketches.
bwilcox [4d\]: But how big are yours and mine?
mh [2k\]: B has to invade..reduction would not do
bwilcox [4d\]: But invading is hard at this point. The flanks \
have been reinforced. Invasion is risky now.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: That's why you invade and attack my group or else.
mh [2k\]: that means the game is already difficult for B
bwilcox [4d\]: Yes, Black fell way behind with the 2 corners on \
the left.
bwilcox [4d\]: ALL of White's stones are interacting.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: Black has 3 disunited positions.]
CR[pj]
BL[1559.639];W[iq]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So first I take this point and unite into a long \
wall here.]
CR[iq]
WL[1754.716];B[hq]
C[mh [2k\]: I should not answer this
bwilcox [4d\]: usual. BUT... couldn't you just take sente now?
bwilcox [4d\]: It's not critical, since I let you still have sente \
by defending, but I was tempted to leave now.]
CR[hq]
BL[1553.860];W[ir]CR[ir]
WL[1738.201];B[bo]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: FATAL. Gote endgame move.
mh [2k\]: way small
bwilcox [4d\]: It's like passing.]
CR[bo]
BL[1510.613];W[bn]
C[star96 [3k\]: what do you think of  trying big reduction even \
if no pressure on w]
CR[bn]
WL[1736.443]
(;B[ap]CR[ap]
BL[1509.207];W[ff]
C[mh [2k\]: It is a pass
bwilcox [4d\]: So now I have ONE BIG MOYO encompassing the entire \
center.
mh [2k\]: Probably I should have tryed K10 and see what happens
bwilcox [4d\]: We have adjacent moyo, which suggests playing a \
moyo pivot. Where is it?
mh [2k\]: Right lower
bwilcox [4d\]: where?
bwilcox [4d\]: you have control
bwilcox [4d\]: show with triangle.
bwilcox [4d\]: it's a place, BUT... has NO threat on my stones.
bwilcox [4d\]: Reconsider.
bwilcox [4d\]: wHERE do you hope to attack if I ignore you.
bwilcox [4d\]: actually, wrong side to pivot.
mh [2k\]: Then upper right?
bwilcox [4d\]: Yes.
bwilcox [4d\]: where?
bwilcox [4d\]: not a pivot, You must maintain connection to your \
own line.
bwilcox [4d\]: yes, or one higher.
bwilcox [4d\]: this is fine. Now if I ignore, you have attacks \
on my stones. Meanwhile your moyo grows and you can access much \
of mine from here,.
bwilcox [4d\]: So pivot should contain threat where possible.
bwilcox [4d\]: ALways seek moves with "quiver factor" - make me \
nervious about your followups.
mh [2k\]: Ok
bwilcox [4d\]: It is unusual to have moyo with 2 pivots, but we \
have this long front.
bwilcox [4d\]: So have to consider both sides.
bwilcox [4d\]: Pass me control please.
mh [2k\]: I did
bwilcox [4d\]: ok]
TR[mg][mf]
CR[ff]
WL[1732.515]
(;B[mj]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This move is only reduction. Not pivot and not \
threat to attack.
bwilcox [4d\]: It improves your moyo security some, but not a \
lot.
mh [2k\]: Reduction was a bad idea
bwilcox [4d\]: Reduction is ok, but only if nothing better is \
around.
mh [2k\]: W would be happy to play L10
bwilcox [4d\]: Since you choose reduction, I ACCEPT. I capped.]
CR[mj]
BL[1496.550];W[kj]CR[kj]
WL[1730.958]
(;B[lo]
C[mh [2k\]: W is way bigger
bwilcox [4d\]: yes, but M5 is your next problem.
bwilcox [4d\]: It is not connected to safety.
mh [2k\]: After L10 I was in a scramble mode
bwilcox [4d\]: It also marches more toward a dead end, the other \
direction has more threatening followups.]
CR[lo]
BL[1473.988];W[ph]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This was a probe. I didn't really intend to live \
it necessarily.
bwilcox [4d\]: But it is an invasion. Correct way to handle invasion \
is usually to attack to enclose. Keep rest of territory, make \
me live, get sente, maybe kill if lucky.]
CR[ph]
WL[1728.090]
(;B[oh]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: But you offer me a sacrifice to link up underneath. \
Thank you. Makes me strong on my moyo.
mh [2k\]: they won't work against dan players..]
CR[oh]
BL[1470.273];W[oi]CR[oi]
WL[1723.585];B[pi]CR[pi]
BL[1468.571];W[og]CR[og]
WL[1722.756];B[qh]CR[qh]
BL[1466.840];W[nh]CR[nh]
WL[1721.935];B[qg]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So I get everything I could hope for and you keep \
what you had. Your N10 move is looking weak. and your M5 stone \
is looking weak.
bwilcox [4d\]: O6 is looking good for me, also any continuing \
to secure my moyo.
bwilcox [4d\]: At this point, your game is probably lost.
mh [2k\]: definitely]
CR[qg]
BL[1466.213];W[nk]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So I slice off your reducing move.
bwilcox [4d\]: This gives me control over the top.
bwilcox [4d\]: It's much bigger than slicing off your M5 stone.]
CR[nk]
WL[1720.425];B[mq]
C[mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: I choose to get life, give you 2 stones, and get \
sente.]
CR[mq]
BL[1461.995]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
WL[1718.039];B[lp]CR[lp]
BL[1460.885];W[nq]CR[nq]
WL[1717.416];B[kq]CR[kq]
BL[1459.445];W[mr]CR[mr]
WL[1716.870];B[ip]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: ANd they are yours. But I will see about how you \
take them.]
CR[ip]
BL[1458.447];W[jp]CR[jp]
WL[1714.554];B[io]CR[io]
BL[1454.351];W[hp]CR[hp]
WL[1704.159];B[jo]CR[jo]
BL[1439.968]
;W[im]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So I leave behind this aji. Maybe I will attack \
your group later.
bwilcox [4d\]: Triangle is big for you to solve your problems \
completely down here, but it will be gote.
bwilcox [4d\]: If you don't I may attack later.
bwilcox [4d\]: This means you have trouble playing in the center \
until you are secure.]
TR[kr]
CR[im]
WL[1698.464];B[jq]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: You captured a single stone, but not my pair. You \
are not safe yet.]
CR[jq]
BL[1425.453];W[km]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So I close outside  and the moyo is NOW ENTIRELY \
ENCLOSED TERRITORY.
bwilcox [4d\]: So invasion costs nothing to try, but odds of success \
are low.
mh [2k\]: yes]
CR[km]
WL[1696.637];B[gd]CR[gd]
BL[1391.288];W[fd]CR[fd]
WL[1694.724];B[hc]CR[hc]
BL[1390.219];W[fc]CR[fc]
WL[1688.870];B[kb]CR[kb]
BL[1386.480];W[lb]CR[lb]
WL[1687.243]
(;B[id]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Here is endpoints of my links around it.
bwilcox [4d\]: triangle in particular.
star96 [3k\]: Rikitiki you will like Go Dojo
bwilcox [4d\]: so, star, what is your contact question about j16
star96 [3k\]: right here, the group has 5 liberties
star96 [3k\]: b group
bwilcox [4d\]: you mean now that black has played?
star96 [3k\]: but shape says have to go G15
mh [2k\]: G15 seems better]
TR[nk][kj]
SQ[fp][ho][co][bn][km][im][oi][eh][ch][og][ff][nd][fd][mc][lb]
CR[id]
BL[1385.469];W[ge]
C[aburry [7k\]: I was surprised when yuo said white had centre surrounded \
and black was facing into it on the right side...
bwilcox [4d\]: but then I played here.
star96 [3k\]: oh, forgot it was W move her
bwilcox [4d\]: It makes a big difference.
bwilcox [4d\]: :)
star96 [3k\]: ;)
star96 [3k\]: what about moving away faster?
star96 [3k\]: J13
bwilcox [4d\]: But were it Black to play, nothing wrong with Black \
at G15 because SHAPE is a different discussion from CONTACT.
bwilcox [4d\]: Black needs eyes and shape in sente is good.
star96 [3k\]: sorry, K13
bwilcox [4d\]: I'm confused, You want Black to play NOW at k13?]
CR[ge]
WL[1684.562]
(;B[he]CR[he]
BL[1383.828];W[hf]CR[hf]
WL[1682.285];B[if]CR[if]
BL[1376.042];W[hd]CR[hd]
WL[1681.714];B[nf]CR[nf]
BL[1342.596];W[of]CR[of]
WL[1679.062];B[gd]CR[gd]
BL[1340.924];W[kc]CR[kc]
WL[1677.925];B[hg]CR[hg]
BL[1337.245]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
WL[1676.381];B[jc]CR[jc]
BL[1333.972];W[jb]CR[jb]
WL[1671.877];B[ib]CR[ib]
BL[1332.452];W[ka]CR[ka]
WL[1670.912];B[ii]CR[ii]
BL[1323.162];W[je]CR[je]
WL[1670.012];B[ie]CR[ie]
BL[1320.933];W[jd]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: All I need to do is keep your eyes down. But if \
I let you live, the cost is HUGE.]
CR[jd]
WL[1663.905];B[ki]CR[ki]
BL[1314.722]
;W[jj]CR[jj]
WL[1662.258];B[ji]CR[ji]
BL[1311.217];W[kg]CR[kg]
WL[1661.401];B[jg]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: It begins to look like you will live...
bwilcox [4d\]: But with ko.
bwilcox [4d\]: But I cannot make big ko threats.
bwilcox [4d\]: Right now I probably have double ko on upper side, \
so you still need two eyes. So it will still be hard.
star96 [3k\]: j16]
CR[jg]
BL[1309.732];W[hh]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: But as I was getting worried, I clamped here.
mh [2k\]: OK]
CR[hh]
WL[1659.726]
(;B[kf]
C[mh [2k\]: I di not see the way to live.
bwilcox [4d\]: This move cannot lead to making eyes in the area.
bwilcox [4d\]: What were you hoping?
mh [2k\]: If I live, live big
mh [2k\]: ;-)
bwilcox [4d\]: Hey, ANY life right now would be big. This move \
just strengthens me. For example triangle would be better.
bwilcox [4d\]: At least it would be making eye shape.]
TR[kh]
CR[kf]
BL[1304.664];W[lg]CR[lg]
WL[1657.786];B[ke]
C[mh [2k\]: for L12 W can J12
bwilcox [4d\]: This just strengthens me.]
CR[ke]
BL[1300.369];W[kd]CR[kd]
WL[1655.691];B[gg]CR[gg]
BL[1299.009];W[ih]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: No eyes here now.]
CR[ih]
WL[1652.639];B[jh]CR[jh]
BL[1297.029];W[hi]CR[hi]
WL[1650.952];B[ij]CR[ij]
BL[1293.003]
;W[ig]CR[ig]
WL[1649.216];B[jf]CR[jf]
BL[1290.363];W[mm]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This move secures me and aims to attack your OTHER \
group as well.]
CR[mm]
WL[1644.283];B[jk]
C[star96 [3k\]: :)
bwilcox [4d\]: at what location move.
star96 [3k\]: when first invading and got kos
star96 [3k\]: around 16]
CR[jk]
BL[1287.783];W[kk]CR[kk]
WL[1642.364];B[hl]
C[mh [2k\]: So I gave up on the group]
CR[hl]
BL[1286.561];W[il]CR[il]
WL[1640.407];B[hk]CR[hk]
BL[1284.733];W[ik]CR[ik]
WL[1638.667];B[hn]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: So it is enough for me to capture your upper group. \
I let you get away with murder on the bottom.
bwilcox [4d\]: After that it is endgame but not relevant.
mh [2k\]: no
bwilcox [4d\]: The key lessons are:
mh [2k\]: Thank you for the review.
bwilcox [4d\]: 1. Must use masses of stones. Find an attack to \
use them
bwilcox [4d\]: 2. Moyo Pivots are HUGE and safe.
bwilcox [4d\]: 3. Once you are alive, dont keep playing from that \
group.
bwilcox [4d\]: you did that on the bottom and on the top left.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: Those were the keys for this game.
bwilcox [4d\]: Thank you.
mh [2k\]: Thank you very much for the lesson
bwilcox [4d\]: any questions from the audience?
RikiTiki [6k\]: thank you both for doing this for us!
zee [?\]: thanks for letting us watch
star96 [3k\]: comments on contact play here?
gravie [?\]: yes, thank you very much!
RikiTiki [6k\]: lol!
bwilcox [4d\]: star96- where do you refer?
RikiTiki [6k\]: i just started using, godojo, today, star! 
star96 [3k\]: b responded without emplty triangles throughout
bwilcox [4d\]: L12.
star96 [3k\]: but still seemed slow in corners
star96 [3k\]: but question  was for center fight
bwilcox [4d\]: But white F15. so equal in empty triangles.]
CR[hn]
BL[1282.664]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
WL[1624.779];B[gn]CR[gn]
BL[1271.750];W[fq]CR[fq]
WL[1619.813];B[gp]CR[gp]
BL[1266.088];W[hj]CR[hj]
WL[1614.711];B[fl]CR[fl]
BL[1256.159];W[kr]CR[kr]
WL[1608.162];B[kp]CR[kp]
BL[1252.715];W[gr]CR[gr]
WL[1605.623];B[go]CR[go]
BL[1243.279]
;W[er]CR[er]
WL[1604.005];B[dr]CR[dr]
BL[1227.255];W[pl]
C[RikiTiki [6k\]: white is all one now]
CR[pl]
WL[1602.694];B[ql]CR[ql]
BL[1211.592];W[qm]CR[qm]
WL[1601.041];B[pm]CR[pm]
BL[1210.422];W[qk]CR[qk]
WL[1600.114];B[rl]CR[rl]
BL[1209.473];W[pk]CR[pk]
WL[1599.249];B[rk]CR[rk]
BL[1206.039]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
WL[1598.498];B[rj]CR[rj]
BL[1205.029];W[qi]CR[qi]
WL[1597.861];B[ri]CR[ri]
BL[1203.907];W[nb]CR[nb]
WL[1592.272];B[es]CR[es]
BL[1198.630];W[dl]CR[dl]
WL[1582.113];B[fr]CR[fr]
BL[1195.095];W[bg]CR[bg]
WL[1578.072];B[jr]CR[jr]
BL[1190.518]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
WL[1573.994];B[ob]CR[ob]
BL[1186.126];W[oa]CR[oa]
WL[1571.846];B[qc]CR[qc]
BL[1184.443];W[qb]CR[qb]
WL[1570.733];B[rb]CR[rb]
BL[1183.045];W[pc]CR[pc]
WL[1569.173];B[qd]CR[qd]
BL[1172.493];W[od]CR[od]
WL[1567.758];B[ks]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: so at this point, Black is doomed.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: From here, what do you see has been the problem.
mh [2k\]: N10-L10 exchange?
bwilcox [4d\]: TOo specific. More broad view.
mh [2k\]: Oh
mh [2k\]: I let white become too thick
mh [2k\]: in the center
bwilcox [4d\]: yes. You invaded WAY late.
mh [2k\]: yes
mh [2k\]: I lost the timeing
bwilcox [4d\]: also, your corners on the left didn't work together, \
made life individually.
bwilcox [4d\]: Let's see how this happened.
mh [2k\]: sure]
CR[ks]
BL[1169.731])
(;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[ih]CR[ih]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[le]CR[le]

;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[jh]
C[mh [2k\]: well no eye
bwilcox [4d\]: yes, BUt White's position is acquiring weakness.
bwilcox [4d\]: These are becoming targets.
bwilcox [4d\]: Not saying you are alive, saying at least you can \
pray in the fight.]
SQ[oi][ph][nh][og][mg][lg][kg][of]
CR[kj][jj][jh]
))
(;B[jg]
C[Xan [-\]: the onlu little weakness seem around n14-o14
bwilcox [4d\]: BLack has nowhere to run. A large knights has many \
weakness, so White can steal shape in sente easily.]
CR[jg]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[je]
C[star96 [3k\]: K15]
CR[je]
;W[kd]
C[star96 [3k\]: M14
bwilcox [4d\]: M14?]
CR[kd]

(;B[lf]
C[star96 [3k\]: sorry L14]
CR[lf]
)
(;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[if]
C[star96 [3k\]: my eyes are crossed!
star96 [3k\]: ok, no way
bwilcox [4d\]: so where is black shape coming from?]
CR[if]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[jb]
C[star96 [3k\]: terrible
bwilcox [4d\]: hard to make shape with large knights.
bwilcox [4d\]: runs fast if running is goal.
bwilcox [4d\]: but not in an enclosed center.
mh [2k\]: You know.  G16 is a desperate move
bwilcox [4d\]: Well, yes. 
bwilcox [4d\]: ANY INVASION into enclosed space is desparate.]
CR[jb]
)))
(;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[id]
C[star96 [3k\]:  no, b has K16]
CR[id]
))
(;B[ng]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Notice how this attacks my UPPER stones also.
mh [2k\]: right
bwilcox [4d\]: My invasion was extremely risky since your stones \
were strong in the area.]
CR[ng]
))
(;B[lg]
C[mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: here you build, erase, and threatend.
bwilcox [4d\]: so this is a better direction to continue erasure.
bwilcox [4d\]: Creating NEW groups is dangerous.
mh [2k\]: yes]
CR[lg]
))
(;B[mn]CR[mn]
))
(;B[mf]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This would be a big help to the problem.
bwilcox [4d\]: DUAL MOYO= MOYO PIVOT.]
CR[mf]
;W[jd]CR[jd]

(;B[mo]
C[Xan [-\]: alias kennozan
bwilcox [4d\]: but white might coutner attack.]
CR[mo]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[hn]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Now Black has to keep his new group alive.
bwilcox [4d\]: Might work. WOuld be easier than invading later.]

PL[B]CR[hn]

(;W[mq]CR[mq]
)
(;B[mq]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: this gets to be interesting for Black.
bwilcox [4d\]: White has 2 weak groups potentially.
bwilcox [4d\]: But it's all speculation. The initial pivot is \
on the upper side where it is clear White has a weak group potential \
problem.
bwilcox [4d\]: But on lower side, "quiver factor" moves have interesting \
potential.]
CR[mq]
))
(;B[mn]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: But this has no quiver factor.
bwilcox [4d\]: White is unconcerned about any threatening followup.
bwilcox [4d\]: Still nice to grow black and reduce white.
bwilcox [4d\]: Now who's moyo is bigger?
star96 [3k\]: b mentioned going at k10 at one point
mh [2k\]: close to me
bwilcox [4d\]: yes.   yes.  and K10 is a new group invasion.]
CR[mn]
))
(;B[jj]CR[jj]
;W[lj]
C[star96 [3k\]: K12
bwilcox [4d\]: What big reduction? You mean invasion?
star96 [3k\]: yes invasion if you M10
bwilcox [4d\]: It's inside my sector lines when started. Hence \
an invasion.
star96 [3k\]: reduction if you J10
bwilcox [4d\]: One does not back down on an invasion, one attacks.
star96 [3k\]: doesnt that depend on score?
bwilcox [4d\]: Not usually. 
star96 [3k\]: ok, but this seems more likely to work
bwilcox [4d\]: It's hard to justify backing down on invasions. \
You get too little from your prior moves. But obviously if you \
are winning BIG, then it hardly matters.
bwilcox [4d\]: ANY invading earlier is more likely to work.
star96 [3k\]: can use some contact for forcing moves against M10?]
CR[lj]
)
(;B[ic]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: But invading up here puts pressure on White as \
well.
star96 [3k\]: low?
bwilcox [4d\]: Various. Any triangle has it's interest. Higher \
will generally be better for Black.
star96 [3k\]: oh, OK
bwilcox [4d\]: ok, guys. Bedtime for you. CU.
star96 [3k\]: thanks!!
bwilcox [4d\]: da nada.
Xan [-\]: Grazie Bruce]
TR[jd][id][jc]
CR[ic]
))
(;B[jd]CR[jd]

(;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[gh]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: If I go low, maybe stop my growth 
bwilcox [4d\]: You still have attacks on the top side.]
CR[gh]
)
(;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[ge]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: If I go out, you attack my stones for profit and \
safety and my other group remains weak.
bwilcox [4d\]: The attack on my group is how to use your stones.]
CR[ge]
)))
(;W[fe]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Is this what you hoped for?
mh [2k\]: Not really but I went too far and had no choice.
bwilcox [4d\]: The problem at present is the extremely slow series \
of moves in the upper left corner which cannot be used.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: So this is really where the game got lost.
bwilcox [4d\]: I can always unite my walls, like this.]
CR[fe]
))
(;B[mc]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: sorry, struggling with tool.]
CR[mc]
))
(;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[jf]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: But can I give them up to build my moyo?
bwilcox [4d\]: Hard to know. It's a scoring problem.]
CR[jf]
)
(;W[pf]CR[pf]
)
(;B[pf]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: Just this and wait would be ok.]
CR[pf]
))
(;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[je]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: This would be of particular interest. I build a \
wall, you build the 2 stone and my wall not so good.
bwilcox [4d\]: This handles my growing moyo and is better than \
triangle
bwilcox [4d\]: I still have to worry about my group a bit.
mh [2k\]: true]
TR[pj]
CR[je]
))
(;B[fc]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: What does White do now?
mh [2k\]: sacrifice two stones?
bwilcox [4d\]: Here you are attacking me to use your handicap \
stone again.
bwilcox [4d\]: Well then you would be happy locally.
bwilcox [4d\]: Overall problem with your play in this area is \
that it is too passive and local.]
CR[fc]
))
(;B[ci]CR[ci]

(;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[dk]
C[mh [2k\]: far better
bwilcox [4d\]: your corner is very strong, so this uses it.
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: Now maybe my wall is under attack.]
CR[dk]
)
(;W[ck]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: obviously I cannot do this.
bwilcox [4d\]: too close to the wall.
mh [2k\]: no
mh [2k\]: playing form stronger
bwilcox [4d\]: so wedge is a peaceful way to INSURE I can't use \
my wall.]
CR[ck]
)))
(;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[bo]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: ladder favors you.]
CR[bo]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[do]CR[do]

;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[dm]
C[mh [2k\]: In this case 
bwilcox [4d\]: this is one line. You get strong on outside.
mh [2k\]: I thought you don't need G4
bwilcox [4d\]: I have bad aji in the area. 
mh [2k\]: Then I did not choose this]
CR[dm]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[gp]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: what does white do now?
mh [2k\]: OK you needed it
bwilcox [4d\]: yes.]
CR[gp]
))
(;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[do]
C[bwilcox [4d\]: like this?
mh [2k\]: ye]
CR[do]
;W[gp]
C[mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: what then?
mh [2k\]: extend]
CR[gp]
;B[cj]
C[mh [2k\]: left side
mh [2k\]: yes
bwilcox [4d\]: OK. I'm building a moyo, but q6 is a strong place \
for you. It would be ok. 
mh [2k\]: Ok thank you
bwilcox [4d\]: The key is that you cannot expect to attack my \
e4 stone, so contact to make it stronger is ok.]
CR[cj]
))