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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:10.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[pala]
PW[goddess]
DT[2002-06-22]
PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]
KM[5.5]
RU[Japanese]

C[goddess 	white
pala	black


6/22/02

Game A
]CA[UTF-8];B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[fq]
C[pala [-\]: ok, big move first
]CR[fq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[cn]
C[pala [-\]: must get out
]CR[cn]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[cq]
C[pala [-\]: this move isn't right
goddess [-\]: c4?
pala [-\]: white isn't easy to make a position on the bottom
goddess [-\]: g5

See (b...)
]CR[cq]

(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cp]
C[pala [-\]: w does't have position yet
]CR[cp]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[oq]
C[pala [-\]: any bigger?
goddess [-\]: r4 but you can make it flat
pala [-\]: no, b will not push w (b...)
]CR[oq]

(;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[pj]
C[pala [-\]: still big
]CR[pj]
;W[qp]
C[
]CR[qp]
;B[qn]
C[pala [-\]: yes, w has to get out
]CR[qn]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[pq]
C[pala [-\]: proper defense
]CR[pq]
;W[qo]CR[qo]

;B[qq]
C[pala [-\]: too soon
pala [-\]: w needs base
pala [-\]: not need to get out
goddess [-\]: ok
goddess [-\]: I was afraid of the bad relationship
goddess [-\]: between the  w stones
goddess [-\]: if I played there
]CR[qq]

(;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mp]
C[pala [-\]: doesn't split black!
goddess [-\]: right
]CR[mp]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[pk]
C[pala [-\]: overplay
goddess [-\]: right

See (b...)
]CR[pk]

(;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[on]
C[pala [-\]: can w save cutting stone?
goddess [-\]: maybe with p8 (b...)
]CR[on]

(;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rm]
C[pala [-\]: w shape is weak
]CR[rm]
;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[ol]
C[pala [-\]: now what?
goddess [-\]: this was just plain blindness
goddess [-\]: q6?
pala [-\]: must defend connection (b)
goddess [-\]: ok
]CR[ol]

(;W[pn]
C[pala [-\]: useless
]CR[pn]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[qi]
C[pala [-\]: m4 is better (b)
]CR[qi]

(;W[lo]
C[
]CR[lo]
;B[lc]
C[pala [-\]: slow?
pala [-\]: where is big move?
goddess [-\]: k15?
goddess [-\]: oh c10
pala [-\]: no
goddess [-\]: g3?
pala [-\]:  r17 (b)
goddess [-\]: oh
]CR[lc]

(;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[dh]
C[pala [-\]: passive
pala [-\]: c15 is better locally  (b)
]CR[dh]

(;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[hc]
C[pala [-\]: slack
pala [-\]: what is correct?
pala [-\]: must j16 (b...)
pala [-\]: help weak stone, and seal b in
pala [-\]:  if kills black, great
pala [-\]: if can't kill b, w will connect at least
]CR[hc]

(;W[je]
C[pala [-\]: too easy for b
pala [-\]: w got a weak group
]CR[je]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[jg]
C[
]CR[jg]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[hg]
C[pala [-\]: too fast
pala [-\]: heavy group, must run slowly
goddess [-\]: ok
]CR[hg]
;W[jj]CR[jj]
;B[jl]
C[pala [-\]: no way to link up here
pala [-\]: just defend here? (b)
goddess [-\]: ok
pala [-\]: it is also good for reducing
]CR[jl]

(;W[kl]CR[kl]
;B[km]CR[km]
;W[ll]CR[ll]
;B[jk]
C[pala [-\]: L10 is better (b)
goddess [-\]: ok
]CR[jk]

(;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[kk]
C[pala [-\]: M8 isn't useful
]CR[kk]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[ij]
C[goddess [-\]: so many white stones in trouble
]CR[ij]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[md]
C[pala [-\]: O15 is proper move
]CR[md]
;W[nd]CR[nd]

;B[ne]
C[pala [-\]: bad atari
pala [-\]: just kills w inside stone
pala [-\]: any better move?
goddess [-\]: so extend on inside?
goddess [-\]: to o17?

See (b...)
]CR[ne]

(;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[oe]
C[pala [-\]: useless
]CR[oe]
;W[of]
C[
]CR[of]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[mg]
C[pala [-\]: it isn't useful
pala [-\]: just kills w inside
]CR[mg]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[mc]
C[pala [-\]: great move
]CR[mc]
;W[nh]CR[nh]

;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[oh]
C[pala [-\]: important forcing
pala [-\]: helps three

]CR[oh]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[oi]
C[pala [-\]: yes, kills three!
goddess [-\]: :-)
]CR[oi]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[qf]
C[pala [-\]: any choice?
goddess [-\]: q13 (b)
pala [-\]: yes, more liberty
goddess [-\]: or q14
pala [-\]: no, q14 is bad
]CR[qf]

(;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]
C[pala [-\]: now w ends with gote
]CR[rg]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[cf]
C[pala [-\]: necessary?
pala [-\]: any bigger?
goddess [-\]: g3?
pala [-\]:  K3? (b)
goddess [-\]: ok
pala [-\]:  even L3? (c)
]CR[cf]

(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[jb]
C[pala [-\]: doable, but not biggest
]CR[jb]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[ib]
C[goddess [-\]: too many big mistakes today, sorry
pala [-\]:   w didn't do any mistake here
goddess [-\]: then i am missing something now
goddess [-\]: I will think
]CR[ib]
;B[jd]
C[pala [-\]: yes,  can live
]CR[jd]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[id]
C[pala [-\]: good forcing
]CR[id]
;W[hb]
C[
]CR[hb]

;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[mb]
C[pala [-\]: lived
goddess [-\]: yep :-)
]CR[mb]
;W[ja]CR[ja]
;B[kd]
C[pala [-\]: is this move necessary?
goddess [-\]: probably not
goddess [-\]: k15 stone is not really important
goddess [-\]: and I can make another eye below
pala [-\]: right
]CR[kd]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[la]
C[pala [-\]: slow?
goddess [-\]: g18 (b)
pala [-\]: yes, sente
]CR[la]

(;W[ha]CR[ha]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[go]
C[pala [-\]: why atari here?
pala [-\]: can w capture that b cutting stone?
goddess [-\]: no
goddess [-\]: but I thought I might have to sacrifice the g4 stone
goddess [-\]: to live above
pala [-\]: then, what to do?
goddess [-\]: h4?
pala [-\]: this is cross-cut
goddess [-\]: to save the white stone?
pala [-\]: yes, help weaker stone (b)
goddess [-\]: but if I do that
pala [-\]: b isn't easy
goddess [-\]: don't I endanger the four even more?
goddess [-\]: oh the two black will likely die
pala [-\]: ok
pala [-\]: thanks
pala [-\]: let's have a new game?
goddess [-\]: sure

Comments end here.
goddess [-\]: please save
pala [-\]: ok
]CR[go]

(;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[in]CR[in]
;W[hn]CR[hn]

;B[io]CR[io]
;W[hl]CR[hl]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[fk]
C[pala [-\]: thanks for the game
pala [-\]: let's review?
goddess [-\]: thank you
goddess [-\]: yes please
]CR[fk]
)
(;W[hp]CR[hp]
))
(;W[gb]))
(;W[jq])
(;W[kq]))
(;W[pg]))
(;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[od]
C[pala [-\]: that is the natural way
goddess [-\]: ok
pala [-\]: help inside weaker stone first
pala [-\]: it hurts b corner!
goddess [-\]: ok
]CR[od]
))
(;W[kj]))
(;W[le]CR[le]
))
(;W[id]CR[id]
))
(;W[ce]))
(;W[qc]))
(;W[lp]))
(;W[rp]CR[rp]
))
(;W[ol]CR[ol]
;B[nn]CR[nn]
;W[mo]
C[pala [-\]: w must fight
]CR[mo]
;B[mm]CR[mm]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[nk]CR[nk]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[lq]CR[lq]

;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[sr]CR[sr]
;W[rn]
C[pala [-\]: ok?
goddess [-\]: yes
]CR[rn]
))
(;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[pm]
C[pala [-\]: this is better
goddess [-\]: okay 
pala [-\]: got one at least
goddess [-\]: yes
]CR[pm]
))
(;W[ql]
C[See (a...)
See (b...)
]CR[ql]

(;B[pm]
C[pala [-\]: worried this?
goddess [-\]: yes
]TR[ql][oo]
CR[pm]
;W[rn]
C[goddess [-\]: oh
goddess [-\]: I see
goddess [-\]: black can not s7
]CR[rn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[rp]
C[goddess [-\]: ok
]CR[rp]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[qk]
C[pala [-\]: no change for b
]CR[qk]
)
(;B[pn]
C[pala [-\]: if b extend?
goddess [-\]: p8?
goddess [-\]: or p7
goddess [-\]: maybe p7 is better
]CR[pn]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[ol]
C[goddess [-\]: ok
pala [-\]: now o5 is useful, do it.
pala [-\]: it captures b
]CR[ol]
)))
(;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[qm]
C[pala [-\]: bad play for b
goddess [-\]: cause w can approach the wall?
pala [-\]:  because white is getting stronger on right side
goddess [-\]: ok
pala [-\]: b lost potential on right side
]CR[qm]
))
(;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[bn]
C[goddess [-\]: ok
]CR[bn]
;W[fl]
C[pala [-\]: w makes position on left side
pala [-\]: and no weak group
]CR[fl]
))