(; GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:10.0] SZ[19] HA[0] ST[0] PB[pala] PW[goddess] DT[2002-05-11] PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] KM[5.5] RU[Japanese] WR[6k] C[goddess white pala black Lesson 110 5/11/02 ]CA[UTF-8];B[qd] C[pala [-\]: have a good game! goddess [6k?\]: thanks pala [-\]: play slowly goddess [6k?\]: I am so excited about the congress I can't think straight pala [-\]: have better move each time goddess [6k?\]: but I will try to slow down and think pala [-\]: haha goddess [6k?\]: okay here goes ]CR[qd] ;W[dp] C[pala [-\]: you did better! goddess [6k?\]: thanks ]CR[dp] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[qo] C[goddess [6k?\]: it was interesting to play a longer game again goddess [6k?\]: I tried to take my time pala [-\]: yes pala [-\]: too fast isn't good for learning ]CR[qo] ;B[qm] C[pala [-\]: a proper move to get out ]CR[qm] ;W[oo]CR[oo] ;B[mq] C[pala [-\]: this move isn't doable though pala [-\]: do you know why? goddess [6k?\]: you can double peep pala [-\]: right goddess [6k?\]: I could not remember the right response goddess [6k?\]: right pala [-\]: w has to play forcing move first (b...) ]LB[qq:A][np:B] TR[pp] CR[mq] (;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[oq] C[pala [-\]: now w is fine ]CR[oq] ;W[rq]CR[rq] ;B[jp] C[pala [-\]: this pincer isn't correct pala [-\]: because? goddess [6k?\]: it may weaken my heavier group? pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: because b single stone isn't important ( light ) pala [-\]: this is correct pincer (b...) goddess [6k?\]: ah goddess [6k?\]: yes ]LB[qk:A][qi:B] CR[jp] (;W[qk]CR[qk] ;B[qi] C[pala [-\]: ok ]CR[qi] ;W[pl]CR[pl] ;B[fc] C[pala [-\]: this move isn't correct in this case, why? goddess [6k?\]: black can develop on the top goddess [6k?\]: and I should pincer? pala [-\]: right (b...) goddess [6k?\]: I almost did pala [-\]: top side is more valuable than left side goddess [6k?\]: but it seems so dangerous for white goddess [6k?\]: at k17 pala [-\]: no danger at all ]LB[df:A][jc:B] CR[fc] (;W[df]CR[df] ;B[cj] C[pala [-\]: correct direction ]CR[cj] ;W[cm]CR[cm] ;B[dg] C[pala [-\]: yes, move out first! goddess [6k?\]: oh good ]CR[dg] ;W[ef]CR[ef] ;B[bg] C[pala [-\]: it isn't right pala [-\]: what is correct move? goddess [6k?\]: could b14 be right? pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: corner is still open pala [-\]: don't try to protect the corner pala [-\]: or if you must, c17 is correct move. pala [-\]: this is biggest move (b) goddess [6k?\]: oh ]LB[be:A][jc:B] CR[bg] (;W[be]CR[be] ;B[db] C[pala [-\]: now w is overconcentrated ]CR[db] ;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[cb] C[ ]CR[cb] ;W[bb]CR[bb] ;B[fe] C[pala [-\]: is this move necessary? goddess [6k?\]: not really pala [-\]: where should w play? goddess [6k?\]: top goddess [6k?\]: still goddess [6k?\]: it is invadable goddess [6k?\]: k3 (b) pala [-\]: yes ]LB[ff:A][jc:B] CR[fe] (;W[ff]CR[ff] ;B[ge] C[pala [-\]: ok! ]CR[ge] ;W[kd]CR[kd] ;B[ic] C[pala [-\]: ok, w can run faster at L13 (b) ]LB[kg:B][kf:A] CR[ic] (;W[kf]CR[kf] ;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[cp] C[pala [-\]: yes pala [-\]: must squeeze b ]CR[cp] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[do] C[pala [-\]: a great forcing move! ]CR[do] ;W[eo]CR[eo] ;B[dn] C[goddess [6k?\]: thanks pala [-\]: yes, help weak stone ]CR[dn] ;W[cn]CR[cn] ;B[en] C[pala [-\]: now what is best for w? goddess [6k?\]: f4? goddess [6k?\]: ah pala [-\]: kill the corner (b) pala [-\]: ok? goddess [6k?\]: attack right away goddess [6k?\]: yes ]LB[cr:B][fo:A] CR[en] (;W[fo]CR[fo] ;B[dr] C[pala [-\]: w can e2 first (b) ]LB[er:B][fq:A] CR[dr] (;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[bo] C[pala [-\]: great move! goddess [6k?\]: thanks ]CR[bo] ;W[fm]CR[fm] ;B[pm] C[pala [-\]: yes ]CR[pm] ;W[om] C[ ]CR[om] ;B[ol] C[pala [-\]: important forcing move ]CR[ol] ;W[ok]CR[ok] ;B[nl] C[pala [-\]: this is solid but slow pala [-\]: now, what is best move for w? goddess [6k?\]: how about o7 (b) pala [-\]: yes, o7 is best way to help single stone ]LB[on:A][nm:B] CR[nl] (;W[on]CR[on] ;B[nk] C[goddess [6k?\]: okay pala [-\]: now, what should w do? goddess [6k?\]: p10 (b) goddess [6k?\]: I almost did goddess [6k?\]: but I was afraid that black would get too many liberties on the inside stones pala [-\]: w must get out at p10 pala [-\]: and b can't live inside goddess [6k?\]: I was chicken ]LB[ql:A][oj:B] CR[nk] (;W[ql]CR[ql] ;B[oj] C[pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: w must s7 now (b) pala [-\]: since w can't run and expend more liberty goddess [6k?\]: right ]LB[rm:B][ei:A] CR[oj] (;W[ei]CR[ei] ;B[if] C[pala [-\]: good defense ]CR[if] ;W[kh]CR[kh] ;B[ej] C[pala [-\]: proper answer ]CR[ej] ;W[fi]CR[fi] ;B[di] C[pala [-\]: not a good push pala [-\]: any better move in local? goddess [6k?\]: h11? pala [-\]: better, but not need goddess [6k?\]: I don't know See (b...) ]LB[dk:B][fj:A] CR[di] (;W[fj] C[pala [-\]: now b got good shape ]CR[fj] ;B[ek] C[pala [-\]: this isn't useful pala [-\]: any better defense for w? goddess [6k?\]: d9? pala [-\]: too far pala [-\]: doesn't kill 3 b stones goddess [6k?\]: d8 pala [-\]: e7 (b) goddess [6k?\]: okay ]LB[em:B][el:A] CR[ek] (;W[el]CR[el] ;B[fk] C[pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: no reason to squeeze b strong group ]CR[fk] ;W[gk]LB[fl:A] CR[gk] ;B[fl] C[goddess [6k?\]: right pala [-\]: e7 is better (b) pala [-\]: no weakness goddess [6k?\]: right pala [-\]: now b can save three stones at f6 ]TR[fn] CR[fl] (;W[dl]CR[dl] ;B[gl]CR[gl] ;W[hk]CR[hk] ;B[hl] C[pala [-\]: yes, good defense goddess [6k?\]: thanks ]CR[hl] ;W[gm]CR[gm] ;B[gj] C[pala [-\]: great attack ]CR[gj] ;W[hj] C[ ]CR[hj] ;B[gi] C[pala [-\]: it captures b goddess [6k?\]: yeah I read it goddess [6k?\]: :-) pala [-\]: your reading ability is getting stronger! goddess [6k?\]: thanks goddess [6k?\]: it was very hard ]CR[gi] ;W[gh]CR[gh] ;B[jg] C[pala [-\]: necessary ]CR[jg] ;W[hi]CR[hi] ;B[kg]CR[kg] ;W[lg]CR[lg] ;B[lf] C[pala [-\]: now w must save top side group pala [-\]: possible? goddess [6k?\]: I did not think I could goddess [6k?\]: If I am going to try goddess [6k?\]: I must atari at m15 I guess pala [-\]: too soon goddess [6k?\]: but it seems impossible pala [-\]: that will lose other forcing move See (b...) goddess [6k?\]: I thought I had to sacrifice ]LB[mf:A][jc:B] CR[lf] (;W[mf]CR[mf] ;B[le] C[pala [-\]: nice defense, but not good enough pala [-\]: any better way for w? goddess [6k?\]: force again at n15? (b...) ]LB[mh:A][me:B] CR[le] (;W[mh]CR[mh] ;B[ke] C[pala [-\]: any better move locally? goddess [6k?\]: L10? pala [-\]: K11? (b) pala [-\]: solid connection goddess [6k?\]: okay ]CR[ke] (;W[jh]CR[jh] ;B[rm] C[goddess [6k?\]: now I worry pala [-\]: w is in trouble goddess [6k?\]: yes ]CR[rm] ;W[rl]CR[rl] ;B[ih] C[pala [-\]: yes, necessary ]CR[ih] ;W[rn]CR[rn] ;B[ii] C[pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: any better move? goddess [6k?\]: m10? (b) pala [-\]: yes goddess [6k?\]: more eye potential pala [-\]: help weak group ]CR[ii] (;W[jj] C[ ]CR[jj] ;B[ji] C[pala [-\]: w can't link up anyway goddess [6k?\]: right ]CR[ji] ;W[ki]CR[ki] ;B[kj]CR[kj] ;W[lj] C[pala [-\]: now, w must be careful pala [-\]: must somehow make two eyes goddess [6k?\]: right ]CR[lj] ;B[kk] C[pala [-\]: ok! ]CR[kk] ;W[oh]CR[oh] ;B[qj] C[pala [-\]: necessary ]CR[qj] ;W[sm]CR[sm] ;B[pg] C[pala [-\]: useful forcing pala [-\]: makes an eye ]CR[pg] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[pf] C[pala [-\]: this move isn't right goddess [6k?\]: yeah goddess [6k?\]: o11 can be trouble still right? pala [-\]: any better way to make eye? goddess [6k?\]: o11 pala [-\]: right pala [-\]: o11 is better, but still no two eyes goddess [6k?\]: n11 doesn't do it either pala [-\]: no goddess [6k?\]: m11? goddess [6k?\]: okay pala [-\]: w has to play forcing move (b) pala [-\]: ok ]LB[mj:A][me:B] CR[pf] (;W[mj]CR[mj] ;B[ll] C[pala [-\]: yes ]CR[ll] ;W[me]CR[me] ;B[md] C[pala [-\]: any more forcing move? goddess [6k?\]: o16? See (b...) ]LB[er:A][ld:B] CR[md] (;W[er]CR[er] ;B[hq] C[pala [-\]: this isn't need ]CR[hq] ;W[ho]CR[ho] ;B[in] C[pala [-\]: good squeeze goddess [6k?\]: thanks pala [-\]: just c2 can't kill b ]CR[in] ;W[bn]CR[bn] ;B[ap] C[pala [-\]: Yes! goddess [6k?\]: :-) pala [-\]: your reading is much better! goddess [6k?\]: it felt so good ]CR[ap] ;W[br]CR[br] ;B[cr] C[pala [-\]: destroy eye shape ]CR[cr] ;W[bq] C[ ]CR[bq] ;B[bp] C[pala [-\]: ok! pala [-\]: d1 (b) is best -- just squeeze from the door since no eye point inside goddess [6k?\]: I was tired after this ]CR[bp] (;W[ar]CR[ar] ;B[bl] C[pala [-\]: need ]CR[bl] ;W[an] C[ ]CR[an] ;B[ij] C[pala [-\]: it isn't small pala [-\]: any bigger? goddess [6k?\]: o16 still pala [-\]: m16 first (b) goddess [6k?\]: there is also s2 goddess [6k?\]: oh yeah ]CR[ij] (;W[mo]CR[mo] ;B[ik]CR[ik] ;W[ko]CR[ko] ;B[kp] C[pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: slow move pala [-\]: still m16 (b) ]CR[kp] (;W[kn]CR[kn] ;B[km]CR[km] ;W[gr] C[pala [-\]: big move! ]CR[gr] ;B[pk]CR[pk] ;W[rj]CR[rj] ;B[ri] C[pala [-\]: ok, but not biggest pala [-\]: m16? (b) or K1 (c) goddess [6k?\]: ok goddess [6k?\]: ah k1 goddess [6k?\]: I would have j1 goddess [6k?\]: was sorry I missed it ]CR[ri] (;W[sk]CR[sk] ;B[hr] C[pala [-\]: a big move ]CR[hr] ;W[rr]CR[rr] ;B[pr] C[pala [-\]: yes! goddess [6k?\]: I did not see m16 (b) pala [-\]: but m16 is much better ]CR[pr] (;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[ld] C[pala [-\]: now w doesn't have anymore forcing move goddess [6k?\]: yes pala [-\]: and this move isn't doable ]CR[ld] ;W[nc] C[goddess [6k?\]: woops pala [-\]: it hurts goddess [6k?\]: yes I realized it later goddess [6k?\]: after I did it ]CR[nc] ;B[ne] C[pala [-\]: no choice pala [-\]: w needs eye shape goddess [6k?\]: yes ]CR[ne] ;W[nf] C[goddess [6k?\]: I saw that the atari put me in atari after you responded goddess [6k?\]: I did not read that right when I played o17 ]CR[nf] ;B[oe] C[pala [-\]: necessary goddess [6k?\]: thanks pala [-\]: w makes two eyes ]CR[oe] ;W[ni]CR[ni] ;B[jn] C[pala [-\]: now where is biggest move for w? goddess [6k?\]: h1? (b) pala [-\]: yes, sente first pala [-\]: then t11 (c) ]CR[jn] (;W[mm]CR[mm] ;B[gp] C[pala [-\]: correect response ]CR[gp] ;W[fp] C[ ]CR[fp] ;B[go] C[ ]CR[go] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[hn] C[pala [-\]: yes ]CR[hn] ;W[hs]CR[hs] ;B[is]CR[is] ;W[gs]CR[gs] ;B[ir] C[pala [-\]: it isn't big pala [-\]: where is big move? pala [-\]: t11 is biggest move (b...) goddess [6k?\]: oh yes ]LB[si:B][eg:A] CR[ir] (;W[eg]CR[eg] ;B[cf]CR[cf] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[ed]CR[ed] ;W[gf]CR[gf] ;B[hf] C[pala [-\]: natural move ]CR[hf] ;W[dh]CR[dh] ;B[ch]CR[ch] ;W[cg] C[pala [-\]: this ko is big ]CR[cg] ;B[li]CR[li] ;W[lh]CR[lh] ;B[dg] C[pala [-\]: slow? goddess [6k?\]: yes goddess [6k?\]: but..... pala [-\]: does w have ko threat? goddess [6k?\]: I looked goddess [6k?\]: and I did not think I had anything big enough goddess [6k?\]: could m17 be it? See (b...) ]LB[si:B][eh:A] CR[dg] (;W[eh]CR[eh] ;B[cg] C[pala [-\]: it isn't useful ]CR[cg] ;W[bk]CR[bk] ;B[ck] C[pala [-\]: reduces some, but gote ]CR[ck] ;W[al]CR[al] ;B[bj] C[goddess [6k?\]: okay ]CR[bj] ;W[ak]CR[ak] ;B[ba]CR[ba] ;W[lp]CR[lp] ;B[lq] C[pala [-\]: actually this is so small pala [-\]: any bigger move? goddess [6k?\]: I only did it to get the atari at p16 goddess [6k?\]: t11 (b) pala [-\]: yes, t11 is biggest move ]TR[od] CR[lq] (;W[of]CR[of] ;B[ph] C[pala [-\]: yes pala [-\]: must try it ]CR[ph] ;W[od]CR[od] ;B[pe] C[pala [-\]: best way to go ]CR[pe] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[ob] C[goddess [6k?\]: thanks pala [-\]: correct move pala [-\]: important ]CR[ob] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[qc] C[pala [-\]: ok pala [-\]: any better move for w? goddess [6k?\]: r18? pala [-\]: w will get more forcing move (b) ]LB[mc:A][lc:B] CR[qc] (;W[mc]CR[mc] ;B[lc] C[pala [-\]: useful forcing move pala [-\]: also good for endgame ]CR[lc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[rb] C[pala [-\]: ok pala [-\]: w can s19 first (b) ]CR[rb] (;W[lb]CR[lb] ;B[kc] C[pala [-\]: great forcing move ]CR[kc] ;W[kb] C[ ]CR[kb] ;B[jb] C[pala [-\]: ok! two eyes pala [-\]: destroy 30 points goddess [6k?\]: yeah :-) goddess [6k?\]: I'm tired now :-) goddess [6k?\]: was was feeling pretty good about it ]CR[jb] ;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[si] C[pala [-\]: this is necessary goddess [6k?\]: yeah pala [-\]: protects points goddess [6k?\]: I thought about it ]CR[si] ;W[sj]CR[sj] ;B[ra] C[pala [-\]: is this move necessary? goddess [6k?\]: probably not pala [-\]: ok pala [-\]: where is biggest? goddess [6k?\]: r1 (b) pala [-\]: yes pala [-\]: . c8 is another big move (c) ]CR[ra] (;W[oa]CR[oa] ;B[rs] C[pala [-\]: no pala [-\]: this move is worth 2 points pala [-\]: c8 is worth 4 (b) goddess [6k?\]: okay goddess [6k?\]: yeah I should have done it goddess [6k?\]: I had seen that move at one point pala [-\]: if w cuts c8, w increase 4 points goddess [6k?\]: right pala [-\]: if b connects c8, that is sente for b pala [-\]: weakness in w shape ]CR[rs] (;W[ka] C[pala [-\]: this is the best game you did! goddess [6k?\]: thank you goddess [6k?\]: I feel really good about it goddess [6k?\]: it was exciting goddess [6k?\]: and fun goddess [6k?\]: I had a great time pala [-\]: i think you have to play serious game like this one pala [-\]: a way to improve goddess [6k?\]: yes goddess [6k?\]: in the summer goddess [6k?\]: I will play more often pala [-\]: great! goddess [6k?\]: and I will make appointments with your students to do it pala [-\]: you will have more fun in Go Congress goddess [6k?\]: yes I will pala [-\]: ok pala [-\]: many thanks for the lesson! ]CR[ka] ) (;W[cl])) (;W[qs]) (;W[cl])) (;W[ra])) (;W[lc]CR[lc] )) (;W[si])) (;W[si]CR[si] ;B[sh]CR[sh] ;W[sj] C[pala [-\]: this is big enough ]CR[sj] ;B[qh] C[goddess [6k?\]: ok ]CR[qh] ;W[cg]CR[cg] )) (;W[si]CR[si] ;B[sh]CR[sh] ;W[sj]CR[sj] ;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[eb] C[goddess [6k?\]: oh pala [-\]: give up a stone here is a good play ]CR[eb] ;B[ec] C[goddess [6k?\]: I didn't see e18 ]CR[ec] ;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[fb]CR[fb] ;W[ca] C[pala [-\]: w got useful forcing move pala [-\]: it reduces b goddess [6k?\]: ah two ways to go ]CR[ca] ;B[ea] C[goddess [6k?\]: yes it does ]CR[ea] ;W[ch] C[pala [-\]: w can do this directly ]CR[ch] )) (;W[hs]) (;W[si])) (;W[ld])) (;W[ld]) (;W[jr])) (;W[ld])) (;W[ld])) (;W[ds])) (;W[ld]CR[ld] ;B[je]CR[je] ;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[mc]CR[mc] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[mb]CR[mb] ;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[kb]CR[kb] ;W[od] C[pala [-\]: better? goddess [6k?\]: ah goddess [6k?\]: yes goddess [6k?\]: much better ]CR[od] )) (;W[me]CR[me] )) (;W[lj])) (;W[ji])) (;W[me]CR[me] ;B[ld]CR[ld] ;W[md]CR[md] ;B[lc]CR[lc] ;W[mc] C[pala [-\]: yes pala [-\]: must try to destroy top side goddess [6k?\]: nice ]CR[mc] )) (;W[jc]CR[jc] ;B[id]CR[id] ;W[nc] C[pala [-\]: use forcing move ]CR[nc] ;B[od]CR[od] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[mb] C[pala [-\]: w will live goddess [6k?\]: ah pala [-\]: many eye shape goddess [6k?\]: yes ]CR[mb] )) (;W[em])) (;W[em])) (;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[dj] C[goddess [6k?\]: okay goddess [6k?\]: right ]CR[dj] ;W[rm] C[pala [-\]: makes b bad shape ]CR[rm] )) (;W[rm])) (;W[oj])) (;W[nm])) (;W[er])) (;W[cr]CR[cr] )) (;W[kg])) (;W[jc])) (;W[jc]CR[jc] )) (;W[jc]CR[jc] ;B[fe]CR[fe] ;W[df] C[pala [-\]: a lot of space on top side ]CR[df] ;B[je]CR[je] ;W[mc]CR[mc] ;B[me]CR[me] ;W[hc] C[pala [-\]: w will live quickly goddess [6k?\]: alright I must remember this ]CR[hc] )) (;W[qi]CR[qi] ;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[pl] C[pala [-\]: w got big profit goddess [6k?\]: yes much bigger ]CR[pl] )) (;W[np]CR[np] ;B[nq] C[pala [-\]: now r3 is doable ]CR[nq] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[pp] C[goddess [6k?\]: okay pala [-\]: if b still double peep ]CR[pp] ;W[po]CR[po] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[rq]CR[rq] ;W[qr]CR[qr] ;B[ro]CR[ro] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[or]CR[or] ;W[pr] C[goddess [6k?\]: ah pala [-\]: something happens ]CR[pr] ;B[sp]CR[sp] ;W[op]CR[op] ;B[rp]CR[rp] ;W[nr] C[pala [-\]: great for w goddess [6k?\]: yes goddess [6k?\]: this is hard to imagine from the earlier position ]CR[nr] ))